I just looked at one of the new Fisker youtube clips here:
At ~26 sec mark the tires turn and you can see how badly the external part looks like. I presume these cars have only few thousand miles, even performance tires should last much longer.
I did a zoomed up view ,not sure how I can post it, but looks pretty bad
Maybe people who drive the demos in the future can comment?
I know it's not exactly the same tire but the October issue of Consumer Reports listed the tread life of the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric as"poor" whereas the Michelin Pilot Super Sport in the same category had it's tread life listed as "Very Good". Both tires had dry breaking and handling listed as "Excellent" with the Michelin being a little better in wet breaking and the Goodyear being a little better in wet handling.
These cars have already done well over 15,000 miles, if I remember correctly from a report a few weeks ago. Those were not average miles, those were miles in the hands of hundreds of enthusiastic people trying maximum acceleration, braking and curve velocity, as well as a lot of city traffic. So this kind of wearing under a-typical circumstances doesn't surprise me.
(10-09-2011 08:41 PM)Dutch Wrote: [ -> ]These cars have already done well over 15,000 miles, if I remember correctly from a report a few weeks ago. Those were not average miles, those were miles in the hands of hundreds of enthusiastic people trying maximum acceleration, braking and curve velocity, as well as a lot of city traffic. So this kind of wearing under a-typical circumstances doesn't surprise me.
15000 miles is more in line with the wear seen. You would imagine though that Fisker can spring for couple tire sets for the 2 cars they show around...
I actually got to drive the Fisker today. Both cars had around 5,600 miles, and on both the exterior part of the front tires was competely bald. The rear tires still had a tiny thread left, but are long past replacement stage. Even if you factor in aggressive driving (which honestly is hard to achieve since the acceleration is not neck-braking), the finding is concerning. I have been lurking on other performance car forums and I see most would say 8-10k for performance tires - which was my own experience with SLK summer tires. This may be an important cost at ~$400 a pop.... Hopefully other brands will start manufacturing that size too
Edit: Actually 6500 mi (sorry, my Alzheimer acts out) - checked the pictures I took. The white car had 6558 mi on odometer when I started
In September Hokiebird wrote that one of the test cars had 13,000 miles (he wasn't sure though). That would have explained the wearing. If it's just 5,000-6,000 miles, then that is really bad.
(10-16-2011 06:29 PM)Dutch Wrote: [ -> ]In September Hokiebird wrote that one of the test cars had 13,000 miles (he wasn't sure though). That would have explained the wearing. If it's just 5,000-6,000 miles, then that is really bad.
Preproduction tyres?
--Fab
(10-09-2011 07:04 AM)marswill Wrote: [ -> ]I know it's not exactly the same tire but the October issue of Consumer Reports listed the tread life of the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric as"poor" whereas the Michelin Pilot Super Sport in the same category had it's tread life listed as "Very Good". Both tires had dry breaking and handling listed as "Excellent" with the Michelin being a little better in wet breaking and the Goodyear being a little better in wet handling.
Does Michelin make tires that fit the Karma?
(02-03-2012 01:07 PM)MArkansas Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2011 07:04 AM)marswill Wrote: [ -> ]I know it's not exactly the same tire but the October issue of Consumer Reports listed the tread life of the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric as"poor" whereas the Michelin Pilot Super Sport in the same category had it's tread life listed as "Very Good". Both tires had dry breaking and handling listed as "Excellent" with the Michelin being a little better in wet breaking and the Goodyear being a little better in wet handling.
Does Michelin make tires that fit the Karma?
As far as I can tell Michelin doesn't currently make tires that fit the Karma. Too bad as I tend to be partial to that brand. I have had very good luck with Michelin's and have them on my other three cars. It looks like Yokohama has tires that fit and according to the reviews, the people that have used them like them. Of course nobody's put them on a Karma yet as far as I know. Check out "Tire Rack".
(02-03-2012 02:32 PM)marswill Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2012 01:07 PM)MArkansas Wrote: [ -> ] (10-09-2011 07:04 AM)marswill Wrote: [ -> ]I know it's not exactly the same tire but the October issue of Consumer Reports listed the tread life of the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric as"poor" whereas the Michelin Pilot Super Sport in the same category had it's tread life listed as "Very Good". Both tires had dry breaking and handling listed as "Excellent" with the Michelin being a little better in wet breaking and the Goodyear being a little better in wet handling.
Does Michelin make tires that fit the Karma?
As far as I can tell Michelin doesn't currently make tires that fit the Karma. Too bad as I tend to be partial to that brand. I have had very good luck with Michelin's and have them on my other three cars. It looks like Yokohama has tires that fit and according to the reviews, the people that have used them like them. Of course nobody's put them on a Karma yet as far as I know. Check out "Tire Rack".
Dito. Thanks.